Classic SeaCraft Community  

Go Back   Classic SeaCraft Community > General Discussion > General
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-12-2008, 09:43 PM
Dilligaf Dilligaf is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Va Beach,VA
Posts: 288
Default Re: buying a seacraft

what about checking the transom?? tips? also you think a ford explorer 2wd 4.0L v6 will pull it?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-12-2008, 09:53 PM
peterb peterb is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Montclair, Sandy Hook & Highbar Harbor, NJ
Posts: 1,148
Default Re: buying a seacraft

Boat, engine and a full tank of gas is going to be 5,500+ pounds.

I used to pull my rig with an old Jeep that was rated for 4,500 pounds. I did it and survived, but would not want to do it for a living.

I now use my Toyota Sequoia. No worries.

Check the Ford site for towing capacities. The only time that 2 wheel drive may be an issue is when you are going up a steep slippary ramp.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-12-2008, 11:10 PM
McGillicuddy McGillicuddy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: 32.77 N, 117.01 W
Posts: 2,184
Default Re: buying a seacraft

Greetings Dilligaf,
I hope you get that Tsunami. Beautiful boats! Pulling it down the road may not be a problem if the trailer is properly balanced. Stopping in "the nick of time" will be an issue at some point. I don't know how far you are typically towing and have no idea what quality of ramps you'll be using but I have seen numerous folks trying to pull too big of a boat off up the ramp burn gas, rubber and transmissions while they amuse or irritate fellow boaters and observers. I have even been part of the problem as I once let a friend (full of confidence in his V-8 F150 longbed) try to pull my 23 footer up a poor ramp (fully confident that he couldn't - hooked a big dodge up to him to get up the ramp) and eventually towed it down the road damn near flipping it on a downhill curve.

I just passed on a nice 23 Sceptre cause I knew my T-100 would have trouble. Luckily I found a 20 Seafari cause I couldn't afford a different truck.

Most folks suggest you don't tow more than 80% of your tow rating. If you have an extra grand or so you might consider finding a good used f-250 or similar to tow it with. I expect you've already pulled up to the Tsunami you're looking at, but hook it up and give it a tug. I think you'll find the Great Tsunami 23 is a pretty big boat next to the Explorer. Good luck. -- Gillie
__________________
there's no such thing as normal anymore...
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-13-2008, 01:32 AM
Fr. Frank Fr. Frank is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shalimar, Florida
Posts: 2,265
Default Re: buying a seacraft

I used to pull my '74 Tsunami with a '96 Grand Cherokee with a 4.0 inline 6, with no problems. While my Jeep was 4WD, I never had to use that to pull the Tsunami up any ramp. My '95 Cherokee had the factory (NOT Dealer) tow package, and was rated to pull 10,000 lbs.
For the record, because I actually weighed it once at he local quarry, my 23' Tsunami and tandem galvanized trailer, with full 110 gallons of fuel, and 300-400 lbs of camping gear, and fishing equipment, etc., tipped the scales at 6085 lbs.

The most dangerous part wasn't pulling the boat, it was stopping it. Even with factory 4 wheel anti-lock with only a two-ton tow vehicle, I had to be very careful about following distance, and planned braking distance.

The most important system on any vehicle isn't the drive system, it's the braking system.
__________________
Common Sense is learning from your mistakes. Wisdom is learning from the other guy's mistakes.

Fr. Frank says:
Jesus liked fishing, too. He even walked on water to get to the boat!

Currently without a SeaCraft
(2) Pompano 12' fishing kayaks
'73 Cobia 18' prototype "Casting Skiff", 70hp Mercury
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-13-2008, 02:57 AM
BigLew BigLew is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Newburyport Area; Massachusetts
Posts: 1,364
Default Re: buying a seacraft

AMEN to that, Brother!

I, and many others on here, live up here in the snow. And we ALL drive/tow up wet ramps and on wet roads at some time.
"It isn't how how much you can tow, but what you can STOP!"
__________________
Getting home is more important than getting there!

Plan accordingly!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-13-2008, 10:00 AM
Islandtrader Islandtrader is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tarpon Capital Of The World
Posts: 2,122
Default Re: buying a seacraft

Quote:
what about checking the transom?? tips? also you think a ford explorer 2wd 4.0L v6 will pull it?
I think these vehicles are rated up to 5000# like my ranger. The most important part like everyone else says is brakes.

My trailer guy told me that if the tow load is more than 50% of your vehicle weight you should get trailer brakes. If your Explorer weighs 4000# the most you should tow without brakes 2-3000 #.
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

"If You Done It...It Ain't Braggin"



my rebuild thread: http://www.classicseacraft.com/commu...ad.php?t=18594
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-13-2008, 12:09 PM
jongolds jongolds is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 265
Default Re: buying a seacraft

trailer brakes make a huge difference. I tow my 73 Tsunami with my Cherokee (not the Grand). My experience has been the same, although I do sometimes need 4wd to get up the ramp (our ramp sucks). My original trailer had no brakes. I pulled it from MD back up to CT like that. Not a fun trip. I'm still not comfortable at highway speeds. It can start to sway if you get to aggressive and it takes some work to keep it under control but around town it's adequate. I keep the boat in the water all season though. I wouldn't do it as a trailer boat. Pushing your luck that often is likely to cause a problem at some point as you become more comfortable and less careful.
__________________
1973 23' Tsunami, 300hp Etec
Norwalk, CT
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-13-2008, 12:36 PM
Old'sCool Old'sCool is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 2,122
Default Re: buying a seacraft

States have specific laws on trailer brakes. I think if you were ever in a wreck and didn't have them but were supposed to....the lawyers would have a field day.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-13-2008, 01:23 PM
Dilligaf Dilligaf is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Va Beach,VA
Posts: 288
Default Re: buying a seacraft

i buying a brand new duel axle trailer with brakes and wont be towing more than 10 miles. i have an ocean ramp about 5 miles away and a bay ramp maybe 8 miles away... what about tips for checking transom out?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-13-2008, 01:37 PM
Old'sCool Old'sCool is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 2,122
Default Re: buying a seacraft

Start with visual, if you have the $$$ and can have it surveyed, do it. They will usually tap with mallet and/or check with moisture meter. Usually around $350 uncluding sea trial for 23' or so. You can get a name from the accrediting society for your area, search the web.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
All original content © 2003-2013 ClassicSeacraft