A little lot of Karma. or re birth of a 20

NoBones · #1 03-02-2012, 10:00 PM

Lookin' real good Bly!!!
Nice to see a little Southern in a Northern boat..

Also, one suggestion. Double opposing stainless clamps
on your vent and fuel lines. I learned the hard way!

bly · #2 03-02-2012, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBones

Lookin' real good Bly!!!
Nice to see a little Southern in a Northern boat..

Also, one suggestion. Double opposing stainless clamps
on your vent and fuel lines. I learned the hard way!

some years of boating and retiring as a pipe fitter working with hose clamps many times? If using a quality clamp I have never seen one fail. There have been many clamps I would not use tho. Then the other thing is on the fuel line pick up fitting? It was a actual Mueler fuel fitting I bought and not a plumbing fitting? So dont blame me. There is not room for two clamps unless I buy those thin clamps. A beefy clamp like I like will clamp mostly on bare hose and not the barbed fitting? I do not think that is good? Maybe since you proved My urban legend wrong I will atleast double the fill and vent hose. There is plenty of room on Those. I am not doubting you? I just thought if I have not ever seen one fail it must be one of those urban legends? Like not putting a battery on a cold concrete floor? That was when batteries were made with glass?

NoBones · #3 03-04-2012, 10:03 PM

Well I hear ya' bly....

I have always used nothing but the best around in hardware
and materials, when doing a boat.. (not just SeaCrafts)
I had a 308 stainless clamp that the worm screw just fell out!

It had not been over tightened if that is what you are guessing..
Luckily it was on an exposed fuel line on a 15 Whaler I had previously
owned! A friend in the marine business recommended double clamps,
keep in mind this was over 30 years ago with that tip.
I have adhered to that standard ever since..
Everyone has their way, this is just mine!

Seacraft84 · #4 03-05-2012, 01:47 PM

Looks good. The slimmer console fits good with plenty of room to walk around. I was and still am thinkin of addn a coffin to the front of mine.
Yeah the clamps is what first caught my eye. Definatly two clamps if not three just because they are cheap. Maybe S&P could have made the fill barb alittle longer so people can mount two clamps. IDK.
Keep the pics comin.

Bushwacker · #5 03-05-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bly

some years of boating and retiring as a pipe fitter working with hose clamps many times? If using a quality clamp I have never seen one fail. There have been many clamps I would not use tho. Then the other thing is on the fuel line pick up fitting? It was a actual Mueler fuel fitting I bought and not a plumbing fitting? So dont blame me. There is not room for two clamps unless I buy those thin clamps. A beefy clamp like I like will clamp mostly on bare hose and not the barbed fitting? I do not think that is good? Maybe since you proved My urban legend wrong I will atleast double the fill and vent hose. There is plenty of room on Those. I am not doubting you? I just thought if I have not ever seen one fail it must be one of those urban legends? Like not putting a battery on a cold concrete floor? That was when batteries were made with glass?

Steve D'Antonio, who wrote "The Incredible Mr. Moesly" article in the literature section, used to manage the Zimmerman Marine boatyard in Va. and now a noted marine consultant, says: "In fact, there are no requirements of any sort governing hose clamp use in boat building and repair, at least not for recreational diesel-powered vessels. The American Boat and Yacht Council’s recommendations call for double clamps in only two locations, fuel fill hoses and exhaust systems (my own guidelines add stuffing boxes to this list). While double clamps are undeniably desirable, in any other location they are optional." He makes the point that double clamps can do more harm than good if you try to use them on a hose barb that isn't long enough to accommodate them!

Steve recently published a couple of EXCELLENT articles on hose clamps: http://www.passagemaker.com/subscrip...lection-part-i, and http://www.passagemaker.com/subscrip...lation-and-use If you click on the pictures at the bottom of the article, it will bring up comments illustrating the point made by each picture.

I personally prefer the solid band clamps with embossed threads made by AWAB because they're fairly narrow but very strong and don't have the perforations that cut into the hose. The local Boat Owners Warehouse store carries them; they're a little more expensive than the perforated band clamps but they're a very high quality clamp that won't damage the hoses. I like to use 1/4" drive sockets to tighten clamps in hard-to-access areas, and the only downside I've found is that the bolts on the AWAB clamps require metric size sockets, so you'll need some small 7 & 8 mm sockets in your tool box for that! Denny

bly · #6 05-09-2012, 07:22 PM

here are some old pictures and some very new pictures.

This was the forward gunnel over the anchor locker. All wood and balsa was soaking wet,

bly · #7 05-09-2012, 09:22 PM

Blue_Heron · #8 03-05-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBones

Also, one suggestion. Double opposing stainless clamps on your vent and fuel lines. I learned the hard way!

I'm with Ken on the double clamps. It's not just a good idea, it's an ABYC standard; two half inch wide clamps on all large diameter fuel hose. Clamps should be 100% 316 Stainless.

Dave