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Old 09-11-2012, 07:50 PM
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Florida is hot,fouling rate is horrible in summer, all the nooks and crannys in an I/0 are hard to properly antifoul to start with and once hard fouling critters attach, a diver can't get to all of them, lots of boats have stray current problems from their lousy maintenance, I/0s are aluminum, which can be bad news in salt water, especially warm salt water with even a little bit of electricity around, unless you are much more careful than most folks, including me. If you antifoul an drive, you better be damn certain that the applier knows not to use copper bottom paint. That happens down here waay more often than you would believe.

One doesn't have to be around very long to realize that I/0s (or outboards for that matter) don't do well kept in the water in Florida. Not to say it is impossible, just damn difficult.

Volvo: I'm not absolutely sure its true any more, but in times past, at least in Florida, there was little doubt that Volvo drives were more durable, much less likely to quit on you offshore. Volvos can be a pain, damned expensive parts, hard to find competent mechanics and sometimes the engineering is just crazy, but they are very very tough. That includes everything up through the 290 drive. I hope its still as true for the sx drive (what I have now).

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Old 09-11-2012, 08:23 PM
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Florida is hot,fouling rate is horrible in summer, all the nooks and crannys in an I/0 are hard to properly antifoul to start with and once hard fouling critters attach, a diver can't get to all of them, lots of boats have stray current problems from their lousy maintenance, I/0s are aluminum, which can be bad news in salt water, especially warm salt water with even a little bit of electricity around, unless you are much more careful than most folks, including me. If you antifoul an drive, you better be damn certain that the applier knows not to use copper bottom paint. That happens down here waay more often than you would believe.

One doesn't have to be around very long to realize that I/0s (or outboards for that matter) don't do well kept in the water in Florida. Not to say it is impossible, just damn difficult.

Volvo: I'm not absolutely sure its true any more, but in times past, at least in Florida, there was little doubt that Volvo drives were more durable, much less likely to quit on you offshore. Volvos can be a pain, damned expensive parts, hard to find competent mechanics and sometimes the engineering is just crazy, but they are very very tough. That includes everything up through the 290 drive. I hope its still as true for the sx drive (what I have now).

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outboards are aluminum,right ? outboard brackets are aluminum too,right ?
does just the aluminum from an outdrive attract these problems ?

neighboring boats - poorly maintained neighboring boats,just a florida thing too ?

in good ol' new jersey,most boats i service are in the water from april to december,that's 9 months - the water temp,it gets into the 80's here in the summer- i have quite a few clients with stern drive powered boats,in excess of 10yrs old,boats have had ZERO problems with drives,as well as hydraulics on the drives...

copper based paint,antifouling paint,on an aluminum surface is a recipe for disaster - pople often overlook this,boat mfg's often overlook this as well - it facinates me...

it's been my experience:

stern drives,the problems are often "self inflicted",meaning,lack of maintnance nothin wrong with a stern drive power system,my own sea craft's I/O powered - what's that tell ya ?
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:48 PM
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outboards are aluminum,right ? outboard brackets are aluminum too,right ?
does just the aluminum from an outdrive attract these problems ?

neighboring boats - poorly maintained neighboring boats,just a florida thing too ?

in good ol' new jersey,most boats i service are in the water from april to december,that's 9 months - the water temp,it gets into the 80's here in the summer- i have quite a few clients with stern drive powered boats,in excess of 10yrs old,boats have had ZERO problems with drives,as well as hydraulics on the drives...

copper based paint,antifouling paint,on an aluminum surface is a recipe for disaster - pople often overlook this,boat mfg's often overlook this as well - it facinates me...

it's been my experience:

stern drives,the problems are often "self inflicted",meaning,lack of maintnance nothin wrong with a stern drive power system,my own sea craft's I/O powered - what's that tell ya ?
You seem a bit hostile at times here. I/O`s work for their design. I am old and love the old Ford based Volvo B17-23 Motahs. Maybe the best `ole 4 cyl. marine app.
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:46 PM
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You seem a bit hostile at times here. I/O`s work for their design. I am old and love the old Ford based Volvo B17-23 Motahs. Maybe the best `ole 4 cyl. marine app.

hostile ?

you're kidding,right ?
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:29 PM
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hostile ?

you're kidding,right ?
Of course, don`t you read my posts? Zzzzzzzzz,,,,,,,,, fish on.

You bring good knowledge and that is what makes CSC the best.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:18 PM
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Of course, don`t you read my posts? Zzzzzzzzz,,,,,,,,, fish on.

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well thank you !
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:30 PM
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well thank you !
Glad that this got smoozed over...
Otherwise GFS would have been wearing cement shoes!
Oh yeah, the fur hat is at the cleaners....
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:44 PM
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it's been my experience:

stern drives,the problems are often "self inflicted",meaning,lack of maintnance nothin wrong with a stern drive power system,my own sea craft's I/O powered - what's that tell ya ?
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:40 PM
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Florida is hot,fouling rate is horrible in summer, all the nooks and crannys in an I/0 are hard to properly antifoul to start with and once hard fouling critters attach, a diver can't get to all of them, lots of boats have stray current problems from their lousy maintenance, I/0s are aluminum, which can be bad news in salt water, especially warm salt water with even a little bit of electricity around, unless you are much more careful than most folks, including me. If you antifoul an drive, you better be damn certain that the applier knows not to use copper bottom paint. That happens down here waay more often than you would believe.

One doesn't have to be around very long to realize that I/0s (or outboards for that matter) don't do well kept in the water in Florida. Not to say it is impossible, just damn difficult.

Volvo: I'm not absolutely sure its true any more, but in times past, at least in Florida, there was little doubt that Volvo drives were more durable, much less likely to quit on you offshore. Volvos can be a pain, damned expensive parts, hard to find competent mechanics and sometimes the engineering is just crazy, but they are very very tough. That includes everything up through the 290 drive. I hope its still as true for the sx drive (what I have now).

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