LAST CHANCE **** 25' Seafari Up For Sale **** Before I do Something Drastic!

[cdavisdb]

Hi GameOn, welcome to CSC.

Very nice 25. I've never seen one with a two tone hull. Is that paint or original gel coat?

You might want to rethink the 25 vs 23 decision. The 25 looks huge on a trailer because it is so deep (tall). I've had the chance to see a 21, 23 and 25 lined up and in the water. There is surprisingly little difference in the size of the boats. I think the 23 actually has a bit more internal volume than the 25. The 25's hull isn't more than 200 lbs heavier. If you use the cabin for anything other than storage, the 25 is way ahead.

Given your use, steep chop in the Columbia an big swells plus wind chop offshore, the 25 has a much better ride and might be a better boat. Not to knock the 23; as you know, it rides great. But the 25, because it is so sharp, is in another class.

Of course, ride may not be the most important thing, the Septre's bowling ally cockpit is unbeatable for fishing or tank diving. And, you pay for the 25s ride with higher fuel costs, a lot higher if you load it heavy. The 25 is also more tippy than the 23, although not near so bad as many deep Vs. The 25 is also a "drivers boat". You have to pay attention to get the best out of the hull. Balance is more important than in a lot of boats. The dividends of attention are huge.

All in all, for me, the ability to run straight into and through 3-4 foot Gulf Stream wind chop, reasonably comfortably on a long run, at 20 knots, sitting down, is priceless.

Connor

[gofastsandman]

Originally Posted by cdavisdb

Hi GameOn, welcome to CSC.

Very nice 25. I've never seen one with a two tone hull. Is that paint or original gel coat?

You might want to rethink the 25 vs 23 decision. The 25 looks huge on a trailer because it is so deep (tall). I've had the chance to see a 21, 23 and 25 lined up and in the water. There is surprisingly little difference in the size of the boats. I think the 23 actually has a bit more internal volume than the 25. The 25's hull isn't more than 200 lbs heavier. If you use the cabin for anything other than storage, the 25 is way ahead.

Given your use, steep chop in the Columbia an big swells plus wind chop offshore, the 25 has a much better ride and might be a better boat. Not to knock the 23; as you know, it rides great. But the 25, because it is so sharp, is in another class.

Of course, ride may not be the most important thing, the Septre's bowling ally cockpit is unbeatable for fishing or tank diving. And, you pay for the 25s ride with higher fuel costs, a lot higher if you load it heavy. The 25 is also more tippy than the 23, although not near so bad as many deep Vs. The 25 is also a "drivers boat". You have to pay attention to get the best out of the hull. Balance is more important than in a lot of boats. The dividends of attention are huge.

All in all, for me, the ability to run straight into and through 3-4 foot Gulf Stream wind chop, reasonably comfortably on a long run, at 20 knots, sitting down, is priceless.

Connor

Keep that hull. They are magical. Listen to the elders. We rode through 3-5s with some 6 footers in a very confused Sebastian inlet and it was jaw dropping. You are fishing some big cold water there.

[GameOnSalmon]

Originally Posted by cdavisdb

Hi GameOn, welcome to CSC.

Very nice 25. I've never seen one with a two tone hull. Is that paint or original gel coat?

You might want to rethink the 25 vs 23 decision. The 25 looks huge on a trailer because it is so deep (tall). I've had the chance to see a 21, 23 and 25 lined up and in the water. There is surprisingly little difference in the size of the boats. I think the 23 actually has a bit more internal volume than the 25. The 25's hull isn't more than 200 lbs heavier. If you use the cabin for anything other than storage, the 25 is way ahead.

Given your use, steep chop in the Columbia an big swells plus wind chop offshore, the 25 has a much better ride and might be a better boat. Not to knock the 23; as you know, it rides great. But the 25, because it is so sharp, is in another class.

Of course, ride may not be the most important thing, the Septre's bowling ally cockpit is unbeatable for fishing or tank diving. And, you pay for the 25s ride with higher fuel costs, a lot higher if you load it heavy. The 25 is also more tippy than the 23, although not near so bad as many deep Vs. The 25 is also a "drivers boat". You have to pay attention to get the best out of the hull. Balance is more important than in a lot of boats. The dividends of attention are huge.

All in all, for me, the ability to run straight into and through 3-4 foot Gulf Stream wind chop, reasonably comfortably on a long run, at 20 knots, sitting down, is priceless.

Connor

Connor,
That is the original Gel Coat, two tone sky blue and white. I am posting a picture of a wet sanded and buffed section in my add. I really appreciate that you took the time to post up on this for me. The water where we fish is super cold for sure and that led me too the 25 in the first place.

Having a cabin I can just sleep in on the sceptre is enough while having that bowling alley cockpit is priceless. I am one of those knuckle heads who cannot stand to see stuff on the floor of the boat and I need space. I climbed in and out and spent hours in the 25' trying to make a decision. After a ton of deliberation I decided that a Small cabin with a Massive cockpit was more important than an over sized cabin with smaller deck.

I can't imagine that the ride is much differnet between the 23' vs 25' in over all conditions. I think running 20 knots into a 3' head wind chop on the columbia river should be easy with the 23', I could be totally wrong.

Either way, I Hope a CSC member get their hands on this hull, IMHO it is in near mint condition and shows it. This is not a Rehabber but rather a Wet sand, Buff and Repower with a Few Minor things to go with it.

Thanks again for all your Input Connor I really Appreciate it.

Regards,
Robert

Originally Posted by gofastsandman

Keep that hull. They are magical. Listen to the elders. We rode through 3-5s with some 6 footers in a very confused Sebastian inlet and it was jaw dropping. You are fishing some big cold water there.

Sandman, thank you for the kind words, and Normally i would always respect and listen to my elders, in this case... I am prolly making a mistake but i have my heart set on the 23'. Thank you for the Input.

[cdavisdb]

Reasonable decision, good reasoning, and the 23 does ride great. I can't fault, but, for sure, you are underestimating the difference in ride. On a long trip, the difference in how you feel is huge.

The day Sandman was in a 25, I was running along side. Forecast was 4-6 and I thought it was accurate. It was ugly and confused. I had my tabs up, running mostly straight into it at just under 20 knots and the boat was occasionally jumping almost out of the water but landing with no bang. Put the tabs down, slow down to 17 - 18 knots and I could have run to Bimini ( 60 miles), mostly sitting down. I'm way too old to try that in a 23.

Connor

[Blue_Heron]

Welcome. You should take Connor's words to heart. He knows of what he speaks. The 25 Seafari is magic in the hands of a good helmsman.

[cdavisdb]

Just thought of another. I was out with Moose in his Septre on a truly nasty day in the Gulf, blowing like stink, short vicious chop that got up to 5 ft or so. Moose has his boat dialed in just perfect. We were running for part of that into about 3-4 at around 16 knots. I was standing up by the steering station and it was handleable. Not comfy, but ok. Faster would not have been good. Sitting down that far forward in the boat was out of the question. Seated in the rear would have been fine if there had not been so much water flying. Comparing hulls, I'm confident the 25 would have run through the same conditions 2-3 knots faster and with the driver sitting down.

[GameOnSalmon]

Originally Posted by cdavisdb

Reasonable decision, good reasoning, and the 23 does ride great. I can't fault, but, for sure, you are underestimating the difference in ride. On a long trip, the difference in how you feel is huge.

The day Sandman was in a 25, I was running along side. Forecast was 4-6 and I thought it was accurate. It was ugly and confused. I had my tabs up, running mostly straight into it at just under 20 knots and the boat was occasionally jumping almost out of the water but landing with no bang. Put the tabs down, slow down to 17 - 18 knots and I could have run to Bimini ( 60 miles), mostly sitting down. I'm way too old to try that in a 23.

Connor

Thanks again for the input... I do appreciate it. If I don't end finding a good home for this one... Its gonna get repowered and sent to the Oregon Coast for my Personal boat... The idea of owning 3 of these buggers is Insane.

Thanks again..
Robert

[GameOnSalmon]

Originally Posted by Blue_Heron

Welcome. You should take Connor's words to heart. He knows of what he speaks. The 25 Seafari is magic in the hands of a good helmsman.

As for taking Conner's words to heart, No question He has me thinking... In regards to a Good Helmsman, I may not qualify as a good enough driver to own this boat. Having run Jet boats in the Big rivers here and Small 20' 21' footers off shore i do have to say on the surface.. the 25' Seafari appears to be a Whole Different Beast. It makes the 20' seafari sitting next to her look like a Tinker Toy.

At the end of the Day it may very well be a Poor Choice to Sell her, but I Like to make a decision and Live with it without personal Regrets. So up for sale she goes... Thank You for the Input.
Robert

Robert

[flyingfrizzle]

You have what looks to be a nice boat. Good luck on selling it. Same colors as the one in this sales add, I like the colors

[strick]

Originally Posted by GameOnSalmon

Where u at in Cali?

On the delta near Rio Vista

strick