Question ref the old 21' hull

[Bushwacker]

Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin

I can only guess that there is a small market for 21ft "Offshore" boats that are capable of crossing over to the Bahamas. It's a big 21 and there are LOT of factors that go into people's boat buying decision. . .

Shrimp is right, most folks think that a 21' boat is too small to take to the Bahamas, but the Moesly 21 not only rides better than some much larger boats, it is absolutely "The worlds BIGGEST 21' boat", as my friend Bob used to say about his SeaCraft 21 pictured below rafted up at West End, Grand Bahama next to a 23' Formula and my 20' Seafari! And although it appears to have a small cabin under the front deck, check out the cross section in the brochure below and notice how Moesly was able to create 7' long bunks by having them extend back under the front seats! That high bow provides decent headroom, and you could sleep very comfortably with your head under the front hatch with feet back under the seats. And the cushions from those tall seats doubled as bunk cushions, so you didn't have a bunch of extra cushions taking up space! And since there was no flotation foam in those boats, they had a huge amount of storage space below the deck. I think Gillie said it took him a couple days to even FIND all the hidden storage areas on his boat!

I once figured out that I have followed Bob's "Unohu" all over the Bahamas for about 2000 miles and I have not seen or ridden in a softer riding boat, unless maybe it's a 25' Seafari! I've ridden in a 23 Sceptre, and while it did ride very nice in a short 1-2' chop, I was surprised that I could actually feel the Potter "spray knocker" strake slapping the water. None of the Moesly designs have that, and I could see how it might be even more noticeable at higher speeds in rough seas.

[Islandtrader]

This is my take on the whole thing.

I agree with everything that Denny stated...That being said I think the interior of the 21 that was sold the most...the Over Nighter SUCKS!

I modeled mine after the Sportsman option. Plenty of interior space to move around. If you want a cabin get a Seafari a much better lay out.

Here is another thing to keep in mind.

RACE ANYONE!

That says it all. This boat was built for one thing and one thing only. It is exactly 21 feet long. It fits into a class, that it dominated.
Remember in the 60's race on Sunday and sell on Monday. Think of the 21 like you would think of a K-Code Mustang...meaning street legal but radio delete and very basic. FYI:None of the boats sold retail had Outboards...the ones raced were all outboard.

Now for the last part...I can't remember which one exactly Sailfish, Seahunt, or something like that is building a very nice boat, with most of the 21's bottom. They always get rave reviews...so someone is doing what you asked.

[77SceptreOB]

Sea Hunt is built here in Columbia, SC. I don't think I've seen one that looks like your 21. The bottom of the hull either...

[Islandtrader]

Originally Posted by 77SceptreOB

Sea Hunt is built here in Columbia, SC. I don't think I've seen one that looks like your 21. The bottom of the hull either...

I think the main question was why hasn't anyone use the hull? And I think if you check the blogs out there Seahunt or Sailfish has stated that it used the VDH by Moesly and it improved it...(I may be wrong on that part,but it sticks in my memory)

Seahunt's Bottom:
Transom: 21 degrees
Midship: 24 degrees
Entry: 60 degrees

Sailfish..Deadrise (Multi-angle) 22° - 24° 22° - 24°

Since I own a 21 I can say this...the 21 with the original windshield was UGLY! It was a 60's boat with a 50's windshield.

I think even Carl agreed that it was an exercise in futility..(windshield) They all cracked and if pounded long enough broke!

[bgreene]

Islandtrader..........yes, that's what I'm saying, surprised there isn't another boat like this today.

For discussion, Wellcraft V20 / V21 series - a classic cuddy, roomy open cockpit for standing, chairs, fishing etc. I believe it may be the single most popular longest running production boat of all time...or close to it. Still very popular - lots in use. I have a 96', last year produced.

Now take the original Seacraft 21.........similar style, but made for hard ocean running in choppy seas. Much taller bow, deeper V, built like a tank.

So, all I'm saying here is it's surprising as I see a solid market for the original SeaCraft 21.
Trailer ability is key, it's the right size boat, and some of my friends are turning back from center consoles........had enough getting wet and cold !!

I admire the older SeaCrafts, and would like to see return / updated 21 cuddy.
At boat shows, I believe it would stand out from all the " bay boats" and offer a more comfortable alternative to the blue water cc's......Regulator, Contender etc....

[Bigshrimpin]

I think I posted this before for you. It's a v20 Steplift and Powercat 20 both photographed and mentioned on several pages in Grayson Lynch's book "Decision for Disaster". Now read the clip from "The Amazing Mr Moesly" article from Professional Boat Builder and draw your own conclusion. Anyhoo . . . You are probably right that the hull deserves another production run, but you'll need to convince someone with $$$ to do it. You know what they say "The easiest way to get 1 million dollars building boats is to start with two million"

p.s. - I am a former v20 steplift owner and I started the wellcraftv20.com site in 2003 . . . I passed the torch to MJ in 2007. It's not a coincidence your search for the ultimate 21ft hull has you here on CSC.

[Bigshrimpin]

And . . . It's not exactly a 21ft seacraft, but I'd bet $$$$$ that Navatek's boat rides damn good There's no other boat builder throwing this kind of muscle behind R+D for a 22ft boat. If you want to buy a new offshore capable dry 21/22ft boat . . . this is where I'd start. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiaPMnSZ_fw

Watch the little clip of the small seablade 16footer around 40 seconds into the video. That boat is glued to the water for a small boat.