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Old 09-26-2016, 09:24 PM
gofastsandman gofastsandman is offline
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if cylinders are rusted,valves are rusted - filling it with that cocktail is going to do what ?

you are aware that cylinder and pistons have a clearance spec ? also,no surface defects should be present on either area,yes ? notice we haven't touched on the valve train quite yet ?

spin it with an impact wrench ?

pop heads off ?


perhaps a better move would be to see if it actually spins over,with the plugs out - we'll skip the impact gun for this and substitute a breaker bar instead....turn it over a few times and see what happens


"step up" is claiming the motor's free:
"The 6 that is in the boat turns but has sat for many years so a total rebuild is a must. Ty for the info "


overhaul on that motor is going to be cheap - the "hang ons are the $ exhaust manifold,carb,electrical - I would count in as all hangon parts needing replacement...



are you not the same gentleman that was attempting to rebuild a 24 topaz a few years ago ?
I prefer a 1/2 ratchet for the first turns.
Said she turns.
Never owned a Topaz.

Not everyone has an open checkbook.

Is hangon a word in Jersey?

Put a brick on the gas pedal of Snowman`s 68 350 skylark with the wheel locked over.
Had one of the worst rod knocks I have ever heard.
Took 20 minnows to throw a rod.

Head bolt torque spec and pattern is 7th grade.
Pop Pop.

I am not an aerospace machinist and neither are you.

How do you file your rings?
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:17 PM
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I prefer a 1/2 ratchet for the first turns.
Said she turns.
Never owned a Topaz.

Not everyone has an open checkbook.

Is hangon a word in Jersey?

Put a brick on the gas pedal of Snowman`s 68 350 skylark with the wheel locked over.
Had one of the worst rod knocks I have ever heard.
Took 20 minnows to throw a rod.

Head bolt torque spec and pattern is 7th grade.
Pop Pop.

I am not an aerospace machinist and neither are you.

How do you file your rings?

"step up" - he owned a topaz



"hang on" - hang on parts,as I described them...


open check book ?? there's things that work and things that don't....a motor that's locked up,pouring a cocktail in it and attempting to "free it up" with an impact gun isn't the best approach - would you agree ??

could you point out where I made the "aerospace machinist " claim ?

one doesn't need to be an aerospace machinist to know a motor that's locked up from sitting,is going to need more than a "cocktail" of kerosene and ATF to make it useable...those areas of rust and corrosion,along with the left over debris - tell me,where does it go ? tell me,if the cylinder walls are pitted,from corrosion,what happens to rings as they grind against these areas ? tell me,if a valve stem rusts into an internal valve guide,what happens to that valve and guide ?

most often,these "backyard" "fixes" aren't the best approach....

that in line 6,it has one cylinder head....


above was said with a grin,watching Hillary take a beating ,sweating like a hooker in church...should I have said "hookah" ?
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Old 09-26-2016, 11:32 PM
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I have a 1965 bow rider with a 230 ci 6 cylinder and mercruiser. Dad bought it new from Mr. Mosley, and I got it in 1975. I have put over 1500 hours on it, and it still runs very well. It is bullet proof. I put a freshwater kit on it in 1976, so that helped. With a 19 inch prop (large ears) it runs about 42 mph. I figure 6 or 7 miles to a gallon. That is with full fuel (28 gallons), and two of us (over 240 each). It has a type 1c merc out drive, which needs to be replaced. This is very similar to an alpha. I have a v6 with alpha Gen 2 I was going to put in it, but the engine cover would not fit without modification. You can buy manifold, breaker less ignition and most anything you need cheap. Hard to beat the iron duke!
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:52 PM
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"step up" - he owned a topaz



"hang on" - hang on parts,as I described them...


open check book ?? there's things that work and things that don't....a motor that's locked up,pouring a cocktail in it and attempting to "free it up" with an impact gun isn't the best approach - would you agree ??

could you point out where I made the "aerospace machinist " claim ?

one doesn't need to be an aerospace machinist to know a motor that's locked up from sitting,is going to need more than a "cocktail" of kerosene and ATF to make it useable...those areas of rust and corrosion,along with the left over debris - tell me,where does it go ? tell me,if the cylinder walls are pitted,from corrosion,what happens to rings as they grind against these areas ? tell me,if a valve stem rusts into an internal valve guide,what happens to that valve and guide ?

most often,these "backyard" "fixes" aren't the best approach....

that in line 6,it has one cylinder head....


above was said with a grin,watching Hillary take a beating ,sweating like a hooker in church...should I have said "hookah" ?
Try reading post 11 again. Reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suit.

OP stated in post 5 the engine turns.

A straight 4, 6, or 8 only has one head?
You don't say. My head just exploded.

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Old 09-27-2016, 07:19 PM
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Try reading post 11 again. Reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suit.
my comprehension is just fine

my strong suit is repairing

not so sure about your's

let it go....
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Old 09-27-2016, 09:24 PM
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my comprehension is just fine

my strong suit is repairing

not so sure about your's

let it go....
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