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Old 07-31-2021, 06:48 AM
Xcomunic8d Xcomunic8d is offline
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So it’s kind of bad news, good news, bad news.

bad news #1. Can’t find a Holley terminatorX 550-905 or 905t anywhere. If anyone can make a suggestion on where to find one or a different tunable system that has a harness, O2 sensors, and supports MPFI. Otherwise, I’ll be waiting until mid-late August (hopefully).

good news, as I was thinking through how the elbows and risers work along with closed cooling it occurred to me that water might be flowing over O2 sensors. That would be catastrophic. I didn’t want to change these out regularly. I see no worries fir that.



you can see the O2 bungs here.


water inlet passage:


exit:

i do have the parts to install a crank mounted raw water pump. It’s kind of cool when you think up an idea to have a machine shop build and then a little discouraging to find it’s already made. But I suppose that is reinforcement you are on the right track. I’ll post those pics and parts when the whole system is here.

Bad news #2- this is kind of painful

the bravo 3 outdrive I purchased needs a full rebuild. Gear set, cone clutch, shims, seals, bearings, everything- but case, props and shafts are done.
I’ve really considered going alpha route but I’m too far in to turn back now and Bravo is clearly better suited for my application.

I was told it’s pushimg $7k for that job before I buy the gimbal housing another 3k. I got the parts list and found a way to trim some costs down. I expect it will be 4.5k-6k. And then the gimbal housing at 3k. A new alpha is under 3k for whole thing and while that appeals to my wallet. I don’t think that is a wise long term choice. But oh this one hurts, ouch really bad…

we decided to go with 1.81 gear ratio. Originally it was a 2.0 gear ratio. We considered a 1.65 but we’re concerned somethings gonna give as that was not designed for these shafts as well as the load on the engine. Given it’s primary role of fishing we decided to play it safe. I have the parts lists if anybody wants them. Partsvu.com says it’s $3k out the door.
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Old 07-31-2021, 10:12 AM
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Bad news #2- this is kind of painful

the bravo 3 outdrive I purchased needs a full rebuild. Gear set, cone clutch, shims, seals, bearings, everything- but case, props and shafts are done.
I’ve really considered going alpha route but I’m too far in to turn back now and Bravo is clearly better suited for my application.

I was told it’s pushimg $7k for that job before I buy the gimbal housing another 3k. I got the parts list and found a way to trim some costs down. I expect it will be 4.5k-6k. And then the gimbal housing at 3k. A new alpha is under 3k for whole thing and while that appeals to my wallet. I don’t think that is a wise long term choice. But oh this one hurts, ouch really bad…

we decided to go with 1.81 gear ratio. Originally it was a 2.0 gear ratio. We considered a 1.65 but we’re concerned somethings gonna give as that was not designed for these shafts as well as the load on the engine. Given it’s primary role of fishing we decided to play it safe. I have the parts lists if anybody wants them. Partsvu.com says it’s $3k out the door.
Smart move in avoiding Alpha - While it is a good drive up to ~300HP, your motor would destroy it pretty quickly. You might check out the swap shop on OffShoreOnly - I have seen decent looking Bravos there periodically. Think Bravo X if you go that route.
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Old 08-20-2021, 02:51 AM
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I have given up on getting a terminator x from Holley. They have moved shipping dates to end of October for the unit I need.

I did find the lingenfelter trg-002 that allows a 58x/4x to run on a 24x/1x. Holley only had ev1 injectors and I have ev6 and I thought adding $300 to the 1k price to do something even ling was a little like “I don’t know man…it should work?” Add it about 1400 for this one engine I figured I depin and tune for much less.

I ordered a harness and ecm for $275 shipped. I’ll depin the harness and program the ecm. I plan on HPTuners ($600) unless there is better advice. I’ll just need a pair of O2’s and I’ll be in business.

I made a run stand and here pics as of now. I’m waiting on the new bell housing for the flywheel and starter. Getting a little closer everyday.

The run stand is a 4x4, some casters, a 2x4, some pocketholes and lag bolts. I figure I will get it running and tuned on stand before lifting it up with gantry crane and in.







Should be picking up bell housing tomorrow. I’ll be adding a plywood control plate for gauges and ignition switch to make sure it’s all good. I’ve been trying to figure out the cooling. It’s been kind of pain finding the fittings and hose locally (without getting destroyed on money).
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Old 08-21-2021, 09:58 PM
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So here it is with exhaust manifolds on.



Problem with coils…


I’ll have to relocate the coils using ict billet stuff. #’s 551115-01, 551532- don’t forget custom length plug wires not sure which ones yet I’ll use.



I’m working on the cooling system. I’m trying to get a drawing of what I envision but I’m artistically challenged. It’s not going to be cheap… I have a friend that runs a local plumbing shop.

The harness and ecm should be here Tuesday.
I’m working on ordering the HP tuning supplies and fuel system as we speak.
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Old 08-22-2021, 12:23 AM
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Make sure you put a remote oil filter kit and remote drain valve kit on that - it will save you a ton of time and frustration. Does it have an aluminum oil pan? Oil pan rust-through is a giant problem with deep bilges.
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Old 08-22-2021, 06:06 AM
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Has an aluminum oil pan that I have seriously coated in paint and primer. Everything’s been or getting painted… Definitely putting on a remote drain kit (flip lever with hose out the drain plug style). I’ve been arguing about an oil cooler (requiring remote oil filter). It’s probably worth it.

EDIT: this cooling plan is bust see new post about this.






This is what I’m going for but above shows fitting sizes. I was toying with doing a pipe manifold with 4 inputs on bottom of manifold (already has threaded holes) but think dual in and out will give more flow.




Input, suggestions, etc, please.
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Old 08-24-2021, 05:23 AM
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remember to remove the pressure relief valve and plug the hole. That joker got me when I rebuilt my 5.3 and deleted the afm.
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