cockpit scuppers 20 SF20

Mark · #1 11-04-2003, 09:40 PM

what if you were to raise the floor 2"-2.5" instead of 1" and then have the thru-transom scuppers ABOVE waterline? There are several others on the site that have gone that route [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Robert Fowler · #2 11-06-2003, 02:13 PM

Thank you Mark. I am concerned about raising the deck too much because of the loss of interior freeboard. Maybe 2" will not be that noticable. It all seems to depend on the ability of the scuppers to drain the cockpit with the exiting fitting being below the water line. I am hoping that the RABUD scuppers with the ball will be the answer. Thanks

TUGBOAT · #3 11-06-2003, 02:40 PM

I never knew why some of the OLD Timers calles them SinkCrafts till I saw what You have,Drains thru the Hull ? I had the same problem on My 20' . Sitting, water poured in, always used plugs also.I went with ball scuppers & flaps over brass tubes for the splash well.Well I've only used My Baby twice ince I've finished Her.The ball scuppers still let water in , not as much as before.I hav'nt really put Her thru many test Yet.(Just happy to run to the Keys for a Blackened Fish sandwich!) Backing down,anchored,Fishing etc. just sitting and walking back to the stern water still flows in. Maybe because I have them mounted to close to the trim tabs ? I still prefer these to the SS ones that were on before.They flooded the deck anywhere !

Scream'n Reels'

Mark · #4 11-06-2003, 04:00 PM

I'm still a bit baffled by all the comprehensive redo's that I see being done on this site that fail to raise the floor. That lake in the back end of the boat was something that I was never able to get used to. If anyone is going to the trouble and expense to rip the boat apart and put in a new transom, by all means, raise the flloor several inches and finally have a self bailing boat.

FELLOW-SHIP · #5 11-06-2003, 04:46 PM

OK GUYS IT TIME FOR A DIFFERENT COURSE OF ACTION
This scupper thing has finally got my attention. I have read all the threads on wet feet long enough, I have thought about this issue without trying to invent something to correct this problem long enough. As of yesterday I stopped thinking along traditional boat repair lines and started thinking about a quick, easy, and cheep way or solving this design flaw which drives most of us a bit crazy or at least distracts us from our boating experience. I will be doing some Bata testing on a easy fix it for these scuppers that spit water up in the air like a Propos this weekend weather permitting and then spill the beans on my idea. If this craze experimentation works we will finally be able to put this puppy to bed.
FellowShip [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

ocuyler · #6 11-06-2003, 05:18 PM

Fellowship - It's alive!

[ November 06, 2003, 04:19 PM: Message edited by: Otto Cuyler ]

abl1111 · #7 11-06-2003, 05:38 PM

Yeah. This is something that needs to be figured out once and for all. I am in the position now to get rid of the floor scupper and go through the hull.

I just have not had anyone, except for Rich, member # 44, have a very strong view on going through the transom. I tried to copy his drawing of what he did, but could not get it to paste over to this thread. So, if you're interested - go to 'Search'... Then, type in 'Scupper' as subject, choose the 'Repair/Mods.' section. Go down 3/4 of the way till you see " Scupper relocate " started by me, ABL1111. Scroll down till you see an actual drawing ( not the boat diagram ). That seems to be a good way to go...

I just don't have the balls to do it, unless I knew it would really work. Speaking of balls, I don't like the ball scupper idea - I forsee problems w/ stuff getting caught in there not to mention marine growth undermining the seal ( I keep my boat in the water 8 months of the year )

So, if someone can come up with a better mouse-trap - pls share it.

As for the scuppers having to be above the water line - I'm not sure of that. My Grady had them half in the water and half out and water almost never came back in. And that boat had the inexpensive, round plastic w/ rubber flap scuppers.

Something to think about, it just dawned on me. Maybe the floatation in the stern is not adequate. Thinking about it, my Grady White did not really dip into the water too much when weight was put in the stern. Maybe the Seacraft's design creates a much more sensitive affect when weight is put aft ?

Anyway - take a look at that thread I mentioned. It would raise the scupper at least 2" from it's 'stock' position...

ABL