Thru-hulls

[pogden]

This is my first post and I want to say what a great site.
I have been reading all the prior threads I could find on thru-hulls, but thought I would ask anyway. I just purchased a 1978 Master Angler. It appears in good shape and was actually garaged every winter here in Pennsylvania. I put it in the Delaware for its maiden cruise and all went well.
When I had it on the ramp checking the trailer straps, I pulled the drain plug and appoximately 5 gallons of water came out. Now to me that was alot. I didn't take on any water that I knew of (spray, back-wash), I didn't run my bilge. Was this alot of water for a 2 hrs. cuise?
Do you think it came in from around the thru-hulls? Do I have a cracked hull?
Should I worry about it, or just run the bilge?
I have not had a boat since I was a kid in Marco Island fishing the Ten Thousnd Island from a 10' john boat ..it was paradise.
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Thanks,
Pat

[Trayder]

5 gals does not seem to be enough to worry about a cracked hull. My guess would be two things.

1) water coming from on the deck from areas like stanchion fittings, or other thigs attached to the deck that may not be sealed well??

2) The Thru - Hulls. I would guess one of your transom Thru Hulls has corroded to the point it needs to be replaced. Not a big deal and they can be purchased at West Or Boats US.

Good luck and welcome aboard

Jason

[FELLOW-SHIP]

HA POGDEN
BEFORE I WOULD BE CONCERNED I WOULD FIRST CONFIRM YOU ARE REALLY TAKING IN ANY WATER. THE SEACRAFTS HAVE A VARIABLE DEAD RISE HULL MEANING THAT THE BOW OF THE BOAT IS DEEPER (CONCAVE) FROM THE STERN OF THE BOAT. WATER CAN ACCUMULATE IN THE BOW OF THE BOAT AND YOU MIGHT NOT SEE ANY WATER IF YOU JUST PULLED THE DECK PLATE IN THE STERN AND LOOKED IN. IF I WERE YOU I WOULD KEEP THE PLUG OUT OF THE BOAT ON YOUR WAY TO THE DOCK, WHEN I DO THIS I CAN SEE WATER COMING OUT OF THE BOAT ON MY WAY TO THE RAMP FOR THE FIRST MILE OR SO. AT THE RAMP BACK THE BOAT DOWN THE RAMP ABOUT ¾ OF THE WAY THEN PUT THE PLUG IN. AFTER YOU LAUNCH THE BOAT PULL THE DECK PLATES AND LOOK IN, KEEP THE DECK PLATES OUT AND RUN THE BOAT AT ABOUT 2000 RPMS AND LOOK SOME MORE. AFTER THAT DO YOUR BOATING THING, WHEN YOU GET BACK TO THE DOCK AT THE END OF THE DAY PULL THE BOAT OUT OF THE WATER ABOUT ½ WAY AND THEN LOOK IN THE DECK PLATES AGAIN THEN PULL THE PLUG. IF YOU ARE GETTING WATER THEN AT LEAST YOU KNOW IT IS NEW WATER NOT ACCUMULATED WATER FROM THE BOAT JUST SITTING. ONE WEEK I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AS YOU AND THOUGHT I HAD A LEAK JUST TO FIND OUT THAT I JUST DRAGGED 5 GAL OF WATER FROM THE HOUSE TO THE DOCK.
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[pogden]

Thanks Fellow-ship,
I needed an excuse to go out again this weekend before I really worked on it. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

I will do as you suggest,and let you know.

Take Care,
Pat

[SEAFARI]

HI POGDEN,
I HAVE THE SAME EXACT HULL, THE 78'MA'S
USED 1" NYLON THROUGH HULL FITTINGS. THERES
ONE IN THE LOWER TRANSOM,TWO SCUPPERS ON THE STERN
AND ONE FORWARD LOCKER DRAIN, THEY SHOULD BE CHECKED FOR CRACKS AND THAT THEY ARE SEALED WELL.
BOSTON WHALER USES GOOD QUALITY ONES ON THE NEWER
HULLS IF YOU NEED TO REPLACE THEM. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

CHRIS

[Scott]

Hi Pogden
To Chris’s point (and not knowing the locations of the thru hulls) there is a member (Steve) who has a 23 , and if memory serves me I recall , had a similar situation in that he was taking on water through the drain on forward locker under the casting platform ( I think it was cracked).....I believe Steve said that it was the possible cause to the boats sinking prior to his ownership. I'm not sure of where that post is but if I find it I'll throw up the link.....Or if Steve is around I'm sure he will fill you in.

Also to Chris's suggestion about the thru hull's ....Both he and Jason pointed me to BW to get the 1" Brass thru hull tubing....and I was able to get a 14" length to replace both the deck drains/scuppers.

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Scott

[pogden]

Thanks Jason,

Thats the answer I was hoping for. The more I read about these boats the luckier I feel. It's a beautiful boat, and rides like a dream.
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Take Care,
Pat

[pogden]

Thanks Guys,

Do you think I should use brass thru-hulls or the marelon(plastic) if I need do replace them? I've been at the Whaler site, there is alot of thought that the plastic is the way to go because of corrosion. But like I said before I've been out of boats so long there was only four engine manufacturers... Johnson, Evinrude, Mercury and Chrysler.

Pat

[Trayder]

4 outboard manufacturers, [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] LOL!!

I would use the Marelon for the transom drains (the ones with the plugs) but only Bronze for the real Thru-Hulls (the ones with the sea-cocks).

[pogden]

Jason,
I think I will do as fellow-ship said, making sure I'm not bringing the water to the dock with me(It did rain 3-4 days the week I took the boat out, and the nose was down; Also, my little helper put the plug in before we left so we wouldn't sink ,so maybe it was all rain water.)
I can only hope, I talked to the previous owner and he said there was no problems with the thru-hulls that he knew of(thats the key..knew of).
If I do need the thru-hulls I will try the Whaler dealer and if they are out of stock go for West or Boats US.
This site has been great. Thanks to everyone who
tried to help this old newbie. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Pat