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Man oh man, what a ride.
Well,I finally got a chance to sea trial my Tsunami,and all I can say is "WOW".
It's been fairly nasty on the great lakes(lake Ontario),where I now have the boat.The last few days the seas have been 3 to 8 foot waves very close together,which unfortunately,seems to be the norm,every time I get there. Today we came in in a very steep chop of at least three footers,spaced very close together,and I,along with my friends,were blown away by the ride. I was able to get on plane,and ride on top of these without pounding.It was unbelievable,the faster I went,the better the ride actually got. I did have a couple hard landings,when I wasn't paying attention,and in a bit of a quartering sea,but this boat is everything it's said to be. I found that the tabs are a huge help for getting the bow down where it needs to be in these conditions. I have a 350 Mercruiser in it with a 4bbl carb that puts out approx 275 HP. The one thing that I'm a little unhappy with is that my top speed is only around 33 MPH,at 4400 rpms(that's max rpms),and at about 3400 Rpms,it's around 26 Mph. I'm spinning a 14-1/2 X 17 prop.I'm wondering if the out drive needs a gear change. Currently,It's a 1.65 to 1 gear ratio,but my marine mechanic says that I would be much better off with a 1.50 to 1 gear ratio. Anyone have any advice?would it be worth the cost,and would it improve the performance significantly?. Anyway,I still can't beleive how awesome the ride is.and I am in my glory with this boat. If anyone has any input regarding the gear ratio change,it would be appreciated.
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Re: Man oh man, what a ride.
I have a 1.5 on a Bravo 1 but it's on an 18 degree deadrise 24WAC (Sportcraft). It has a 350MAG Horizon with a WOT rating of 5200RPMs and I can hit 5150 with a 15 pitch Rev 4 for a top speed of about 41. Cruise at 3600 RPMs is about 27MPH for abou 2.7mpg. Dropping the gear ratio I think will move you to a lower pitch prop to hit your WOT rpms. I don't know that it would improve your overall performance.......maybe Fr Frank will chime in What kind of prop is it??
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Re: Man oh man, what a ride.
Congrats on splashin' her, John. That red Tsunami's gonna be the envy of Lake Ontario. I can't give you much advice on performance, but find out exactly what prop you have and tinker with that first. Also, was your speed reading gps, or paddlewheel; and was it reading knots or mph?
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Re: Man oh man, what a ride.
Thanks guys,
The speed was on my GPS. The top speed was about 33. I probably could have got a little more,if I played with the tabs,but I still don't think it would have increased all that much. If anyone has any advice regarding an out drive gear change feel free to chime in. here's a few pics.
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Re: Man oh man, what a ride.
Looks Awesome John!
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That does just look awesome.....
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Nothing looks better than an SC that's out in full FISHING MODE. Great shots John!
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John,
The ride really is something. Ten years ago when my father bought his 23' Sceptre, he had stepped up from a 20' Wellcraft V20 CC. That first ride on the SC in similar conditions that you describe was incredible - we braced for re-entry and nothing but a soft landing. Regarding your speed, I would think you could get more out of that setup. A fellow CSC member and family friend has an '85 Sceptre with a 260hp Merc 350 and Alpha drive. Not sure of RPMs or prop size, but he consistently runs mid 20s cruise and a 40-41mph top end. |
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Re: Man oh man, what a ride.
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Regarding performance, I think you've already got the right gear ratio and that a change to a 1.5 would be going in the wrong direction. Unless you're running a very light high speed boat, a larger diameter/slower turning prop is generally more efficient. I think that's one advantage the 4-stroke Zuke's have over their competition - they get some extra gear reduction between the crank and drive shaft, so they can spin a larger prop. If that engine is new, it may still be a little tight also, so you may pick up some more rpm after getting some more hours on it. I'd focus on a prop change, maybe less pitch and a little more diameter. Stay with aluminum to keep the cost down until you get it dialed in. A good prop shop can also repitch an aluminum prop by a couple of inches for not too much money. The reason I say the 1.65 is the better ratio is that a friend of mine that owned the SeaCraft 21 "Unohu" (see Proud Owners section of Carla's web site) did a major repower back in about 1975 from an I-6 Mercruiser to a 350 V-8, rated at 250 hp. His mechanic was Frank Brown at Brown & Hauptner Marine, who used to crew for Carl Moesly on some of his race boats, and was one of the best mechanics around at the time. The standard ratio on that setup was 1.5:1. Frank asked Bob if he would mind if he tried an experiment where he'd swap out the 1.5 gearbox for a 1.65 at no cost when he installed the new package. Bob said go for it, and was very pleased with the results. The most convincing part of this story is that the following year, that hp rating on that exact same package went up to 260 or 265 hp - the only change . . . a 1.65 gear instead of a 1.5! With a heavy Bahamas-trip load the Unohu would cruise at 20 kts at an easy 9" of manifold vacuum and run over 40 kts @ WOT. (Frank said max continuous power was 5", so don't cruise any lower than that if you want a long life on the exhaust valves, which is generally the weak link on most 4-S engines!) All the engineers at Pratt & Whitney that I worked with that ran inboards had installed vacuum gages and ran the engines to manifold vacuum. A plot of vacuum vs speed should help you find the "sweet spot" (most efficient trim & speed) on any inboard rig. I'm frankly amazed that no one on this site running inboards and discussing props seems to pay attention to manifold vacuum, because it provides a wealth of information. They're a very good indicator of engine load and health and can detect even minor changes in engine performance. I even use them on my vehicles, and if I was running a 4-stroke outboard I'd have one on it too! Generally the prop that allows the engine to wind up to it's rated rpm @ WOT will also give you the highest vacuum at cruise. I'd recommend installing a vacuum gage; with the existing prop you should start seeing higher vacuum at a given rpm as the engine breaks in. I would then record vacuum as well as speed vs rpm when you try a different prop. Should be a big help in getting her dialed in! Denny
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