In deck Livewell issue

[trave2]

What are you guys doing about the in deck livewell? All I do here on the west coast of Florida is live bait for the most part. The setup I have now has no circulation or airation. Has anyone used a 12V Grouper Bait/Fish Box Pump by whale pumps, or a Fish Box Evacuation Pump by jabsco to pump out the livewell while another pump filled? That would make it circulate, so long as the pump out is more gpm than the pump in right? Any issue with this except for the over flow if the pump went bad? Under the waterline wells are not a good design!

[SeaPlusPlus]

I'm in the thinking stage of figuring out what I want to do with mine on my 20SF. In theory that would work but I'd be worried about the evacuation pump getting all nasty and clogged from fish scales, poop, goo, etc. Good strainer before the outtake might help with that.

I found this diagram from classic mako, but it doesn't seem like it would work well with my 20SF, doesn't seem like it would drain.

[trave2]

yeah that kind of looks like my setup now, without the overflow line, it has a jabsco pump for freshwater tank that also pumps salt to deck and is also connected to the well, the re-circulation is what I want to stay away from as the ammonia build up in the water will kill everything in a couple hours. The Pumps I mentioned are for baitwells, can suck up debris scales, poo, ect.. also run dry. They are made for after day or use.

The Fish Box Evacuation Pump is perfect for emptying a fishbox after a day’s fishing.Typically the fish box in not only used for storing the day’s catch but very often is used as acooler for supplies. This means that there can be all manner of debris left in the bottom ofthe fish box at the end of the day. This self-priming pump is designed for passing typical debris, such as bait residue, particles of ice, fish scales, etc. Its dry-running capabilities and the 360º rotatable head allow this pump to be mounted in almost any position in the boat, allowing for total flexibility.

That description was from jabsco website

The well will fill right now just no cirulation and no drainage.

[trave2]

http://www.jabsco.com/files/fishboxflyer.pdf

[gofastsandman]

I cut out my in deck livewell and put in this. Holds tons of frisky prisoners. 800 Rule w clamshell. Release the prisoners!

The boat seems to like the weight there too.

Cheers,
GFS

[jorgeinmiami]

I wish I had a picture of the setup I had on a prior 20cc.
What I did is that I set up a oval Kodiak bait well under the leaning post, but what I did differnet was tha I placed 2 gas fills right behind the well on the floor. One was the intake and the other the out I used the right sizes plastic fittings that screwed right into the gas fils
ls with hoses to the well. I hade the intake with a thur hull fitting and the out went thur the transom with a 500 rule pump. Always kept the bait nice and frisky.
It was very nice because on the days that I did not fish I could take out the well and place a cooler there.

It came out very nice and clean

[Blue_Heron]

Has anyone used a 12V Grouper Bait/Fish Box Pump by whale pumps, or a Fish Box Evacuation Pump by jabsco to pump out the livewell while another pump filled?

If you want to use the in deck live well, all you need is one pump to pump it down. Assuming your drain goes to a through hull fitting in the transom like mine does, it will fill from there. I built a leaky housing for a float switch that I mounted high on the rear of the bait well. So water comes in through the transom, and as the water level floats the float switch, the pump pumps it down a couple inches, and the process repeats. I'm not doing a very good job of describing it. I'll try to post pics and it will make more sense.
Dave

[pl99]

I use both and just bought a kit from super walmart..
Same set up as Dave<blue heron>IN principle but Im sure Daves is fancy but same principle and one above deck Like Sandy.
the one above deck I let drain out on to the deck and do not worry about it.. One of these days Ill figure something out that is not as messy.
Sometimes when i have alot of live bait<More than I can hold> I use a few big buckets with two Little ten dollar air pumps. Not the best looking setup but when your full of livies but it works for me.
I offset the weight pending amount of people with me with Ice in the front of the boat.

[Blue_Heron]

Here's a pic of my setup. Haven't done the spring cleaning, so pardon the mess.

The aluminum box houses a standard bilge pump float switch. I made the box out of some aluminum sheet I picked up at the local Ace Hardware. In addition to supporting the switch, it keeps bait fish from interfering with float switch function and keeps sloshing water from short cycling the switch. Just by dumb luck, the mounting height is just right. The switch kicks in when the water level is about two inches below the top, and pumps it down about an inch before shutting off. The wires from the switch pass through a 1/8" hole into the bilge. The hole for the wires and the screws supporting the box are sealed with 5200.

The pump outlet is on the lower left with an off the shelf bait well strainer. The doohickie plugged into the drain, also off the shelf, allows water to flow in while at anchor, but keeps it from draining dry while on plane.

The inlet on the right is connected to a seacock that forces water into the livewell while on plane. I have a ball valve on that line accessible through the starboard transom hatch that I use to throttle water flow to the live well.

I have been very happy with this setup. I mainly use it for pin fish and they do very well.

[makade]

I just set mine up to fill from a thruhull with a hi speed pick-up/clamshell, which has a valve to regulate in the tank(also a valve on the sea-cock). The overboard is going through a 500gpm bait pump http://www.tackletogo.com/shbase500gph.html that has a valve at the outlet to regulate flow. I have a standpipe that can be adjusted to set the fill level.



I have only tested the setup briefly, The valves have to be adjusted with speed, but I think it should work well for my needs. Also this is on a 18' and there is a drain fitting in the well that goes to the bilge.