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Old 01-23-2015, 10:31 PM
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I've cut out the new 1 1/2" coosa transom core. I keep grinding here and there to get it to lay as close to the outside skin as possible but when I look down the top I can still see from 1/8" to 1/4" gaps in some places and I can't get it any closer. Is this normal or is it supposed to lay completely flat. I'm thinking when I apply a thick layer of thickened epoxy and clamp it all down all voids will be filled. Any suggestions or opinions on how to continue? I'm sorry I haven't posted any pictures but I just can't figure out how.
How ever you glue it up.. Make sure you dry fit and have everything ready when you clamp it up.. Cut all your laminates up and fit everything. Have your holes ,that you are going to use to pull up the core to the skin ,already drilled and do a test run. With out the resin.and it would be nice if you have some help..a person to mix your resins for you as you need is helpful.and also to help fit the core.
Also do, drill holes in the core for excess resin to be pulled into the core.. That stuff is very Porous and the key to foam if to have as much resin soaked up into the foam...i like to do a hot shot layer of resin to help with the bond if I cannot vacuum bag it..this is with using polyester. I do a hot bond to seal the foam and then while still tacky go with a layer of csm mat In between the foam and what you are bonding. Always lay csm against the foam , not the stich mat. So on your final layer of laminate lay another csm to finish off.. So the lay up will be from the skin,
1 ,1708, mat side to hull skin.
1 -,1.5 oz mat csm next ,
Foam,the
Csm mat,
Then 1708,1708,1708 .the .08 being on the outside if you want a smoother finish
Cabosil and resin the foam with a sqeegee , get that stuff in the foam ,work it in..
Then a notched trowel after ,once done
Set your foam and clamp up. Then come back with a sqeegee and clean up the excess,
Work the resin in the voids at the bottom and sides of hull. And clean excess off the foam face so that it will be easier to lay your final layers of 1708 on top of foam. Make sure the csm mat is the first layer against the foam core. Then alternate the 1708. Finishing up with the mat of the 1708 on the last layer facing out..
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:12 PM
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Thank you Martin for the very detailed instructions.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:21 AM
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I'm going to attach the core today but the temperature is in the 55°-65° range. The epoxy is supposed to be used between 70-80. Does this mean I can't use the epoxy today or will it just take much longer to set and cure?
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:12 AM
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I've used different brands of epoxy at below recommended temperatures into the 40 & 50 degree range many times and have never had any issues. It will have a longer cure time for sure but that will make life easier in this case. After you get everything put together maybe some mild heat like an electric blanket might help.
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Old 01-25-2015, 12:20 PM
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Two things. Coosa is not a porous foam, much less so than plywood, so it will not soak in much of any resin, but plenty enough for bond strength

As for temps, that temp is perfect because you will have a better working time. If you have sun after completion, put a tarp over the area when done and you will have plenty of curing heat. You can do this the day after for final cure. Most if not all epoxy will be curing at above 40 but slowly at that temp. You should try to keep the resin itself at the recommended temps for mixing however in order to get the reaction going and also for it to dispense well if using dispensing pumps.
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Old 01-25-2015, 04:28 PM
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Thank you Martin for the very detailed instructions.
No problem, good luck with the layup, I am sure it will be fine.. Post your pics when done.. Or don't if it will hinder the process. Pics are a pain, especially when under the gun...take a deep breath. Exhale.. And go for it...
Do a test batch of resin and time how long it takes to set up in a cup ,of coarse , say about at least an oz. Of mixed resin.. And see how long it takes to harden. Measure the temp of your resin before you mix...when I first started with polyesters and epoxys, I always did a test batch to check my window. Especially when doing a large layup. More so in 85-90hot weather or cold 40-50. weather. Goodluck and have fun
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:15 PM
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Thank you Martin for the very detailed instructions.
No problem, good luck with the layup, I am sure it will be fine.. Post your pics when done.. Or don't if it will hinder the process. Pics are a pain, especially when under the gun...take a deep breath. Exhale.. And go for it...
Do a test batch of resin and time how long it takes to set up in a cup ,of coarse , say about at least an oz. Of mixed resin.. And see how long it takes to harden. Measure the temp of your resin before you mix...when I first started with polyesters and epoxys, I always did a test batch to check my window. Especially when doing a large layup. More so in 85-90hot weather or cold 40-50. weather. Goodluck and have fun
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Old 01-25-2015, 06:28 PM
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Thank you Martin for the very detailed instructions.
No problem, good luck with the layup, I am sure it will be fine.. Post your pics when done.. Or don't if it will hinder the process. Pics are a pain, especially when under the gun...take a deep breath. Exhale.. And go for it...
Do a test batch of resin and time how long it takes to set up in a cup ,of coarse , say about at least an oz. Of mixed resin.. And see how long it takes to harden. Measure the temp of your resin before you mix...when I first started with polyesters and epoxys, I always did a test batch to check my window. Especially when doing a large layup. More so in 85-90hot weather or cold 40-50. weather. Goodluck and have fun
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